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Game of Thrones chat, under a cut to spare those who aren't interested:

Dang it, I have a BAD feeling about Eddard Stark. I like the guy - after all, he's Sean Bean! But he's also a decent, nice, responsible, honorable guy. And naive to the point of stupidity. He's in prison now, and I have a bad, bad, bad feeling that Martin is not going to spare him. I keep thinking, No, he's a POV character, he can't die. (To quote from a movie, he'll "escape in the final reel", I HOPE.) This book has taken so many rapid twists, and so many people have already died, though, that I can't be confident.

Loved Tyrion and the sky cells. Way cool, that idea of the blue calling. I've developed an affection for his sidekick Bronn, too. When he was fighting the duel, I knew he would win, for the exact same reason Catelyn did - he'd lived through all the other attacks up to that point. Z is right, Tyrion is stealing the book as well as the show.

There are so many things I hate about this book. There's so much injustice, so much death. But I love it, too. It's beautifully written and the characters are all so different and well-developed, which is amazing, given how many of them there are. The story is fascinating, and the narrator (actor Roy Dotrice) is good, too. I hate to turn off the MP3 player when I get to work. (Since it's an audiobook, I had to go to Wikipedia to see how to spell all the names for this post - and I've had to do some creative peeking to avoid spoilers!)

A few things that stick with me:

The death of Lady. BITCH Cersei. I hope one of the dire wolves gets to eat her. Alive.

Arya and her "water dancer" mentor. Loved the scene where he fought off the Lannister men. I wish I knew if he survived that.

The Death by Golden Crown of Viserys. Saw it coming from the minute he opened his mouth at the feast, but still winced and cringed, although he richly deserved it.

Bronn in the duel. Again, saw it coming, but loved "seeing" it.

Tyrion. In almost every scene he's in.

The fact that I simply can't warm up to Jon Snow, although I feel like Martin wants us to, and even when I see his kindness.

And speaking of Jon - "Stick them with the pointy end." LOL!

The incredible stupidity of Sansa, which feels so real that I can't even dislike her for it, idiot though she is.

Ditto Catelyn, whose seizure of Tyrion was one of the most ill-judged actions in the book.

Ditto Robert Baratheon, who got a worse death than he deserved. He and Eddard come from another universe than the Lannisters.

Bran surviving his fall. Didn't expect that. Wonder if he will ever remember why he almost died.

I'm sure there's more, but I'll quit now and get back to work.


I enjoy Cersei as a character myself. The series would be considerably less if Martin were to take her out. Her constant state of bug-fuck crazy keeps everyone on their toes. And what's really a trip? Even when she becomes a POV character later in the series, there is no remorse or guilt. She's absolutely a sociopath. On the flip side, her brother is shockingly sympathetic once he gets to speak his mind... it's a slow growth over the course of the longest book, but, by the end you see Jaime Lannister in a totally different light. And it seems natural. As we keep saying, the writing is just exceptional.

Without giving away too much, Dany isn't doing ANYTHING except lounging around Slaver's Bay and playing at being the Queen of Mereen. I was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt for 1000 pages or so since she was doing a good thing, but now I feel like she's just seriously dragging her heels and making no effort to meet her destiny. Maybe she's scared... I know she's confused... Martin isn't especially clear on her reasons, but I'm getting impatient with her.

You're right, of course, main characters are going to start dying on you very soon. You'll get respite here and there, but every once in awhile a whole bunch more will go and you'll never see it coming. As you say, it's a horrible mess, but at the same time it's SO GOOD. I feel like I know each and everyone one of these people intimately... for better or for worse! Mostly worse. ;-)

If it's OK for you, I'm going to start talking about this in email, so we don't post any spoilers. Normally I don't care, but this is one book series that I would hate to have spoiled.